August 6, 2021

Interview with Four-Time Olympian & Student Loan Expert Lauryn Williams

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In this episode of the Status Check with Spivey, Mike has the opportunity to have a conversation with Lauryn Williams, four-time Olympic athlete and financial advisor with a specialty in student loans. In addition to discussing Lauryn's life and experiences as an Olympian, they also talk about the differences between taking out student loans for undergrad vs. for law school, income-driven repayment plans, public service loan forgiveness (PSLF), how to save for retirement while paying off your student loans (and the perhaps surprising tax benefits of doing so), and more.

As an Olympic sprinter and later bobsledder, Lauryn earned the accolade of being the only American woman to have won medals in both the summer and the winter Olympics. Today, she is a financial advisor, student loan expert, author, and podcaster specializing in improving financial literacy in young people and athletes. Lauryn's book, The Oval Office, is out now, and also be sure to check out the Student Loan Planner podcast and the podcast Lauryn hosts, Worth Listening.

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Mike also references the legal field's bimodal starting salary distribution in this podcast. See below (via NALP):

Podcast Transcript
Featuring

Author, Financial Planner, & Olympic Gold Medalist

Lauryn Williams is a former Olympic athlete in both track and field and bobsledding. Today, she is an author, speaker, and financial planner.

Founder and CEO

Mike Spivey is one of the world's foremost legal and higher education experts.

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